Put Yourself In The Situation - Emarvellous - Artist - #241

The Transformational Power of Music: Emarvellous' Journey and Insights

In this episode, host Savia Rocks welcomes the artist Emarvellous into season five of the Us People Podcast. The conversation explores Emarvellous' creative process, the impact of personal experiences on his music, and overcoming challenges like stage fright and personal loss. Emphasizing the healing power of music, Emarvellous reflects on his journey from East London, influenced by diverse cultures and artists, to engaging in meaningful collaborations and supporting individuals struggling with mental health and addictions.

The episode delves into themes of community support, the significance of positive energy, handling negativity, and the societal issues of self-medication and judgment. Concluding on a note of gratitude, Emarvellous shares stories of resilience and the importance of relaxation, patience, and self-belief in achieving success.

00:00 Welcome to Season Five
01:16 Introducing Emarvellous
02:48 E Marvelous' Early Influences
05:33 Overcoming Stage Fright
12:19 Support Work and Personal Growth
19:43 The Power of Music
22:31 The Origin of Emarvellous
24:58 Musical Contributions and Features
26:37 Mental Health and Homelessness
27:45 Judgment and Self-Perception
29:12 Self-Medication and Spiritual Blockages
30:34 The Power of Positive Energy
33:07 Generational Trauma and Spiritual Cleansing
33:46 The Love of Money and Patience
39:33 The Importance of Self-Belief
42:05 Influential Figures and Legacy
47:03 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Thank you so much Emarvellous for showing us, that music live with us all, not our problems. 

Put Yourself In The Situation, of finding the right people, so that you can find your pathway of purpose - Savia Rocks

Transcript

Put Yourself In The Situation - Emarvellous - Artist - #241

[00:00:00] Savia Rocks: Hey guys, we made it to season five of the Us people podcast. I'm your host Savia rocks. And in this season, we aim to empower and embrace creativity through diversity as we dive into the fascinating stories and experiences of a diverse range of individuals. Highlighting their unique perspectives and creative endeavors from artists and entrepreneurs to innovators and activists, we celebrate the power of diversity in driving creativity and fostering positive change.

[00:00:32] Join us as we engage in thought provoking conversations like I made myself intentionally homeless. In pursuit of my purpose, 

[00:00:41] Jay Harris: we're aware that a lot of people want to present and they, and they were in my position and what's worse, they weren't a white male, which is a joke. That's even still a thing. I 

[00:00:49] Melanie Gayle: think my family never, ever say you can't do something.

[00:00:52] So full of support, full of support for whatever dream. If I said tomorrow, when I fly to the moon, they'll probably say, I wish you all 

[00:00:59] Savia Rocks: [00:01:00] the best. I just want to say thank you for supporting the us people podcast for the past five years. And we look forward to sharing another new theme song with you. Let's go.

[00:01:16] Emarvellous: Yeah. My name is Emarvelous. I'm an artist and I'm doing a podcast for Savia Rocks.

[00:01:33] Savia Rocks: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the us people podcast. I'm your host Savia Rocks and today I have Emarvelous here with me, who is a musician and artist Emarvelous. Thank you so much for taking your time to come on the Us People podcast. How are you? 

[00:01:50] Emarvellous: Good. Thank you very much. I feel very enthusiastic to be on your show and I feel really great that you, um, I got the opportunity to be on your show.

[00:01:58] Savia Rocks: No, thank you so much for [00:02:00] coming on it. Always. Do you know one thing I love is Being able to be creative and talking to different types of artists because the cosmic way of how they think and being able to tell their journey, regardless if it's spiritually or just in a different form is beautiful to be able to help people do that.

[00:02:18] So I want to say thank you even before we begin for coming and wanting to share that with us. 

[00:02:24] Emarvellous: And that's great. I'll say exactly the same thing. It's an honor to be on your show. 

[00:02:29] Savia Rocks: Thank you so much. So my first question for you today. I'm 

[00:02:33] Emarvellous: asking topics you always talk about anyway. 

[00:02:35] Savia Rocks: Thank you. I appreciate that.

[00:02:37] Definitely. Sometimes it's quite, it's quite hard because the questions that come can really pull out a lot from you as well as a person. Yeah. Definitely. So my first question for you is, could you tell me a bit about yourself, where you grew up? and how that influenced you to be the person who you are today.

[00:02:59] Emarvellous: [00:03:00] I grew up in East London, 

[00:03:01] Savia Rocks: Hackney. 

[00:03:03] Emarvellous: Parents coming from the Caribbean, just in Vinson. 

[00:03:07] Savia Rocks: Ah, okay. 

[00:03:08] Emarvellous: Right, and my mother was raised in Trinidad and then she came over when she was young. And, um, we used to live, um, a place called, um, Kingsmead Estate. 

[00:03:19] Savia Rocks: Yep, 

[00:03:20] Emarvellous: And there's all kinds of influences going on there. There was like a place, a pub called the Golden Shoot.

[00:03:27] And there's all these music bands going there and stuff like that. There was like loads of carnivals. And they had, obviously there's different cultures around there because there's different nationalities. So I'm one of those people that I like to embrace all cultures. And my cousin is nicknamed Culture.

[00:03:48] Savia Rocks: That's actually a good name actually. Yeah. 

[00:03:49] Emarvellous: Yeah. Yeah. And then he used to play, he used to have like sound system, building up speaker boxes in his bedrooms. And he used to be like, um, he used to get in the mic and do the reggae DJing, [00:04:00] the toasting and all that kind of stuff. And that got me influenced. And I used to pick up the mic, didn't know what I was saying, but I did it just for the fun of it.

[00:04:09] And it just inspired me. And then, um, years later, there was a person called, um, Overlord X. 

[00:04:19] Savia Rocks: These names are coming out of nowhere. 

[00:04:23] Emarvellous: I've known him all my life. That's um, Mr. X. Yeah, I've known him all my life, basically. When he got, it was nice to see like someone from the, um, from the area out there. Because I used to say to myself, Oh, wow, I would love to be in that situation.

[00:04:43] And then that's what gave me the inspiration. I used to listen to all different hip hop artists from back in the days, and then listen to their journeys of how they got to become the people they were. And, um, that, that also inspired me as well. I used to go on little talent shows and [00:05:00] stuff like that. I remember there was a place called Dingwall's Nightspot.

[00:05:03] That was in Camden. 

[00:05:04] Savia Rocks: I know exactly where, I sang there. Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about. 

[00:05:08] Emarvellous: Yeah, and there was like, I mean like, artists, like the Cookie Crew, and there was like My Only Love, and there was all these people there. And then, um, I said I always wanted to be in this, um, I wanted to be in a situation or when to be in their shoes basically.

[00:05:23] And I remember I entered the talent show and there was like all the people there overlooks, overload X was there and the, the dancers and all that. And I remember I went on the stage, I picked up that microphone and there was, and this is when the nurse kicked in. That was like, um, Britain got talent in the early days.

[00:05:43] Savia Rocks: Yeah, it sure was. 

[00:05:45] Emarvellous: The minute I picked up that mic, I froze and then it's like the words wouldn't come out. It was like a version of 8 Mile. I could understand that feeling and then I can hear people giggling and that made me feel even more nervous [00:06:00] and I still held my corner and I just did what I had to do.

[00:06:03] Then after that I had to put the mic down and that was it. and the, I went back to Dingo's, um, night spot years later. Mm-Hmm. . And I thought I got fed up this, I said, I thought to myself, what am I feeling nervous for? Just see what you've gotta do. So by that time I had like, um, another art, two artists with me.

[00:06:20] There was one called a RockNet. 

[00:06:22] Savia Rocks: Yep. 

[00:06:23] Emarvellous: From South London. And then I had um, another guy called a Chameleon. Reason how he got that name. 'cause he used to always change his hair color all the time. and um. I didn't freeze or I didn't feel nervous or anything. I just went on there and I just done my thing. And even though the songs are finished, I'm still continuing.

[00:06:43] It's just, just, just to show that I overcome that fear. Yeah. You, you know, the group Project, don't you? 

[00:06:49] Savia Rocks: I do. Yeah. 

[00:06:50] Emarvellous: Right. Now, um, there used to be someone I used to collaborate with who was, um, actually used to be an ex posse. Who Mr. X knows and she [00:07:00] got, well, she's not with us anymore and she went by the name of Trina.

[00:07:03] And she was good cause she used to be a DJ called Milk Tray and stuff like that. 

[00:07:07] Savia Rocks: Oh, I know all these names. 

[00:07:10] Emarvellous: And she done a song with Skunk and Nancy, Skin. 

[00:07:13] Savia Rocks: Yes. 

[00:07:15] Emarvellous: But she wasn't actually in the video. She didn't want to be in a video. She's just a status user, um, her vocals and stuff like that but anyway There was um, her cousin, Trina's uncle was Maxine from 

[00:07:30] Savia Rocks: Prodigy 

[00:07:32] Emarvellous: And then what happened was um Maxine, years ago, we done a cover of a cameo song which was Candy.

[00:07:38] Savia Rocks: Yeah 

[00:07:39] Emarvellous: It was the flavor, the, the touched up flavor by Mr. X was, everyone was loving it. People was really feeling it. So we got the attention of Maxim from Progedy. So he listened to the tune and then he was thinking about signing us because he wanted to bring it to his manager and stuff like that. Just when that happened, Trina felt ill.[00:08:00] 

[00:08:01] Then I realized, because we done, um, we, she was, sorry, I forgot to mention, she performed at Dingwalls Nightclub with us as well. So all together. There was like three of us, four of us, and it was all the formula, so we was basically bouncing off each other. So, um, yeah, back to Trina, she felt ill, and I noticed where she said she had a hole in her leg that wouldn't heal.

[00:08:25] Then I found out that she had, um, diabetes, and then, um, I found out she passed away. And then everything just went pear shaped after that, because everyone was distressed. And Maxim, he was, um, he just wasn't happy. He wouldn't be, because that's his niece. Everything turned, so I suppose that deal wasn't meant to be.

[00:08:48] Otherwise it wouldn't have happened. 

[00:08:50] Savia Rocks: But you know, 

[00:08:51] Emarvellous: I still do what I like doing. 

[00:08:52] Savia Rocks: Yeah. 

[00:08:53] Emarvellous: That doesn't mean I must stop. And obviously I am doing What I like to do is you can hear the music I'm still [00:09:00] putting out there. 

[00:09:01] Savia Rocks: Which is the best thing about it is the fact that you still carry on doing what you love.

[00:09:05] And you're being, you're being able to tell your story in your way through music. And sometimes what we don't realize is sometimes we're thinking you don't have to be a celebrity or anyone to make your music touch people. Exactly. You can be at home and your music is touching millions of people and you just don't know.

[00:09:25] Emarvellous: Exactly. It's true. 

[00:09:26] Savia Rocks: And that's the beauty of music. 

[00:09:28] Emarvellous: I remember sending my music to Number One Music. It's just like a nap and it's like a little organisation that's going on and stuff like that. And they've developed a lot now. So I remember sending a track that they call Wellbeing. And then all I was just getting people sending me messages.

[00:09:46] Oh, do you know what that tune you've done really conditioned my mind. And I've done another track called a mental health, never health. They said, Oh, do you know what? It's like you were directly talking to me. The work, the lyrics are using as though you was in front of me [00:10:00] and you was reciting them in front of me.

[00:10:02] So they was just listening to it. And it's like it got a lot of followers. And I've got a lot of followers and I'm number one music. Because it was hip hop, basically, it was like a hip hop kind of channel, or it was like various, whatever genre you did, you just fulfilled, um, what you believed in regarding news, um, um, would you call it the lyrics?

[00:10:26] Savia Rocks: That's all you need to do. All you need to do is write down how you feel from your heart. I always say that to people, a lot of the time people might find it hard to articulate themselves in there. In the mannerism or the way, but if you're feeling, it doesn't even matter if you're feeling angry, you know, depressed, happy, sad, whatever you're feeling, use, use the beauty of words to be able to do that.

[00:10:49] Frequency isn't it? Yeah, that's literally, that's literally what it is. And the frequency is another thing I'm sure we can talk about when you talk about because they, they say that. Is, is it the frequency of [00:11:00] 442? I don't know if I'm correct or, or, or 441 of them are the correct frequency. 

[00:11:07] Emarvellous: Yeah, 441. 

[00:11:09] Savia Rocks: There you go.

[00:11:09] See, you know it better than I do. So I was in the middle. 

[00:11:12] Emarvellous: I won't say I really know a lot about it, but I studied with the engineers in the studio and they tell me, they said sometimes it's that deep that when they have pains that they put on a certain frequency and it gets rid of the pain. 

[00:11:25] Savia Rocks: Exactly that.

[00:11:26] Because when I have a headache, that's exactly what I do as a sign engineer. I go in and I do that as well because it, it, it does actually get rid of pain. A lot of people don't actually know that. And I think that's something that we should learn to, to teach people a lot more. Imarvelous. There is something that I do want to ask you, um, and it's more about knowing more about who you are as a person.

[00:11:48] So can you define yourself as a person and who do you see? When you look in the mirror. But on the flip side of that question, has there ever been a time where you have looked in the mirror and not [00:12:00] recognized the person staring back at you? How did you manage to go from a person that you may not have liked always going through something to becoming the person who has evolved and is happy with the vision of who they see?

[00:12:14] Right, 

[00:12:14] Emarvellous: my answer to that was doing. I looked in the mirror, and then this is, I can tell you this now, I, majority of the time I'd be on the street, going my own business, and then I'll get people telling me their business, and tell me their problems and stuff, and I would listen, and try to get, listening to someone, being a good listener, would actually help someone, it would just, it would just make their day.

[00:12:46] saying hello. And I thought to myself, okay, if that's the case, and people's always asking me advice for certain things, I will, at the end of the day, I'm no specialist. I started volunteering, [00:13:00] volunteering, and I've just thought to myself, it's good to give something back to the community. And I started become, I became a support worker, and I'm a support worker up to this day.

[00:13:10] So I worked in hostels, drug and alcohol addictions. There's a place in Cardiff called the Hugger Center. Yeah, they've, they've, in 1993, it was opened up by Prince Charles, well, king Charles now, obviously. And then I worked there and it was just such an eye-opener. So I thought to, and then every time I looked in the mirror, I thought, man, I've actually evolved.

[00:13:36] to try and help other people, like I said, give back to the community. So I said to them, when I first volunteered, I said, the best place to put me is in the kitchen. 

[00:13:47] Savia Rocks: I like 

[00:13:49] Emarvellous: that. So that way, the service users and residents, I got to engage with them. 

[00:13:57] Savia Rocks: Yes. 

[00:13:59] Emarvellous: And, and, and that's [00:14:00] how I built up a rapport with them.

[00:14:03] So, and that was the best thing I did. So, I got to know a lot of residents, and there'll be stuff that they wouldn't tell the other workers, but at the same time, I had to make them know, you can't, the reason, I would listen to you, but some information I'm going to have to share with them, just to protect myself, because that way they could sort of like incriminate me or try to bribe you.

[00:14:31] Savia Rocks: Yeah. 

[00:14:32] Emarvellous: Yeah, 

[00:14:33] Savia Rocks: you have to be careful as well. I think, I think it's a beautiful thing for people to be able to trust you. 

[00:14:40] Emarvellous: Yeah, exactly. 

[00:14:41] Savia Rocks: In life, there is a magnificent thing around trust because it gives a certain clarity to who you are and for those people to be able to trust you with the clarity of the freedom of their speech is, is, is great.

[00:14:58] But at the same time. [00:15:00] It's kind of like being a therapist in a way with people. It's being able to know when to do something about situation when someone's telling you something and when someone is when it's not a good time to tell someone something because it's confidentiality because somebody has told you something.

[00:15:20] And sometimes life is a little bit complicated and difficult at the same time because Finding a balance within that can also challenge you as a person. So it's, it's, it's so beautiful that you did say that in the way that you did, because a lot of people always look for a connection with someone. And sometimes people find that hard to find within people.

[00:15:43] But then I always say there are empaths in the world who shine a certain light that helps them to enlighten other people's lives. 

[00:15:54] Emarvellous: I feel like a, um, a light and, and the service users are the moths because, you know, moths [00:16:00] are attracted to light. Yeah. So they, you just get people, they would just talk to me and they said, oh, et cetera.

[00:16:06] This happened. And that happened. And I said to, and there was, there'll be people that was on certain, they were like, misuse, you know, like substances and stuff like that. I said, um, well, if I couldn't help you, I can lead you into the direction where you can get help. So you can overcome. There 

[00:16:22] Savia Rocks: you go. 

[00:16:22] Emarvellous: What 

[00:16:23] Savia Rocks: you're doing.

[00:16:23] Emarvellous: Yeah. You've got counsellors and, and stuff like that, and that was my job, is, um, bringing them to, like, the counsellors, and then, some of them would actually go, and some wouldn't. But you know the thing is, you don't give up, you just try and just continuously try because it's your job. 

[00:16:39] Savia Rocks: Exactly. That's what, this is the thing I like about it.

[00:16:42] Emarvellous: And what I did, I sort of like engage with a lot of people and I found out what they liked. There was people who liked sports activities. So I formed a football team for people that liked football. There was people that liked singing and there was one [00:17:00] particular service user who was a really good singer, very good.

[00:17:05] But the only problem is it was the alcohol issue. But, um, so what I actually did organize a studio session with, um, a friend of mine and she, she sang a song called, um, the track was actually called force of impact. And when she sang that song, she really built it out, man. She really put her heart into it.

[00:17:31] And then there's times when she was actually, um, there'll be like a fighting situation going on. The minute she starts singing, everything comes to a standstill because it was that good. She was on, um, Britain's Got Talent years ago. And what happened is she got so nervous. She, um, she actually started swearing Simon Cowell didn't care.

[00:17:52] He called her back about three times, but she just got so nervous because he was really interested in her. Those people are [00:18:00] in Sony that was interested in her. So I was thinking to see if I can give her that jumpstart again, so that she can get back into it. But unfortunately she was too far gone. And that was just a sad thing.

[00:18:13] Like there was like other people I met from who came out of prison and I knew they liked music. We used to go upstairs and have little music sessions. And basically we used to have freestyle sessions, pass the mic all in a circle. And then they would, they would just take their mind off things and then they always just said to me, and whenever they felt down, I said, okay, would you like another music session?

[00:18:35] There was different residents and I can help them in different ways. That's how I got to find out what they liked. Some people like rock climbing and all that stuff. Some people like swimming. And I would just take their mind off things. Some, um, people that make it through and there's people that don't, 

[00:18:53] Savia Rocks: unfortunately, 

[00:18:55] Emarvellous: then again, I still try.

[00:18:56] Savia Rocks: No, the one thing, the one thing, the one [00:19:00] fundamental thing in life is you can try something many times. If a person is ready, they will go walk with you. If a person is not ready, then there is something that they need to learn within themselves before they. Walk towards you and say yes. And one thing you don't do is you don't cost any judgment, any form of judgment upon them.

[00:19:22] You just say, you know what, you're not ready right now. You know, when your time is ready, you know, I am, hopefully it won't be too late. Exactly. And I'll, and I'll be there. If I'm not there, then you wasn't meant to meet me. You wasn't meant to meet someone else. And that's purely, that's purely what it is.

[00:19:41] So. My next one for you is what is a day like in your life? You, you tell me you help people, but then you also have this transformative way of doing music and you've done it with, with people that we both know. 

[00:19:59] Emarvellous: Yeah. [00:20:00] And I'll get the inspiration of, offer the service users as well. I'll get it off for myself, but I see what they go through.

[00:20:08] Savia Rocks: Yeah. 

[00:20:09] Emarvellous: And then I tell a story. Not, not being them or directly on them, but just being in that environment, things just come into my mind. And then that's, that's what helps me. 

[00:20:21] Savia Rocks: So what's a writing session like for you? What is a writing session like for you? Because what, where is your mind? The one thing I love asking artists or anybody creative within music is where is their mindset physically at when they decide to become creative?

[00:20:39] Emarvellous: My mindset is just like in a relaxed setting. And whenever I feel relaxed, I can just come up with all this creativity. And so it just comes from nowhere. Well, obviously it comes from the universe. Right. But it just comes and then that's it. I can't stop. It just goes on continuous. I was thinking, where did that come [00:21:00] from?

[00:21:00] Where did that come from? I thought, what? I actually wrote that. 

[00:21:04] Savia Rocks: I know that one. Yeah. I know that one. Yeah. 

[00:21:08] Emarvellous: I remember a talk before I wrote the track Autism. People said, ah, you're not going to ever be able, no, never going to be able to write a track like that. I've got, because I'm actually a support worker, and I know there's certain things that I didn't know before, but actually working with them.

[00:21:25] People in general, that's what, that's what kind of given me the inspiration and the drive to do what I'm doing. To be able to word certain things, because like you learn about specific words, don't you? 

[00:21:37] Savia Rocks: Yeah. 

[00:21:37] Emarvellous: And specific illnesses. So that make, that's how it becomes a transformation and make me able to write about it.

[00:21:47] Savia Rocks: But that's also a thing, because if you're, for example, when you're telling me you're writing about autism, for example, which is a great subject to actually talk about, the way we deal with people says a [00:22:00] lot about who we are also. Exactly. And also giving them the chance to have the freedom to be themselves.

[00:22:06] Emarvellous: Yeah. There was another, there was a lady that I used to know years ago, or I should say, um, friend of my mom. And the things my mum used to do, a lot of home helps. Helping the elderly people and I think, I think that's what, that's how I got that inspiration of trying to help people as well. So what she did rubbed on, on to me as well.

[00:22:28] Savia Rocks: See. 

[00:22:29] Emarvellous: So that kind of helped me out. And um, there was a, you must be thinking, oh, how did I get the name E Marvelous? 

[00:22:36] Savia Rocks: I was gonna ask you but I thought it's gonna come up. 

[00:22:39] Emarvellous: Yeah, yeah. There was an um, an elderly lady by the name of Gladys. I used to work in a hackney council as well. So I've done various things but the hackney council was before I got into the support work, the care sector.

[00:22:58] So um, I used to help her [00:23:00] across the road. And then she goes, ah. Thank you, Ian. You're bloody marvellous. You are. I love you.

[00:23:11] And then that's, that's how I got the name and it was stuck from them. But people say E. Okay, let's just put them both together. So it was just E marvellous. 

[00:23:20] Savia Rocks: You know what, that's good enough for me to understand the reason why you got your name. And when you have names like that, that come. Spontaneously, and they just stick, you know, it's the name for, you know what, sometimes most of the time, actually, your name is already meant for you, even if it's your, your name as you were born, your, your stage name, you know, a name that you adapt to or comes to you.

[00:23:45] It's already been made for you for you to already have. So it's, it's, it's brilliant how that even happened. If I wasn't 

[00:23:53] Emarvellous: even expecting it to happen, it's just, she just called me and you know what, that name suck. That was it. [00:24:00] 

[00:24:01] Savia Rocks: But that's like, it's a beautiful thing to be able to have that because people usually, when people are in groups or they're trying to make a group or go through things in life, and they're trying to find a name or even a name for a company.

[00:24:14] It's like they're, they're writing down loads of names, but when something is meant for you and it comes naturally, it's so much better because you can feel that it's meant for you. The name is meant for you. 

[00:24:25] Emarvellous: Yeah. Especially cause I always kind of like, um, it's my, the way I delivered a name for some reason.

[00:24:32] And like, it was like a slogan. So it's like, I was, I would say he marvelous. And then everyone knows that. They recognize that. If you listen to my tunes, you're always going to hear that. And so, um, yeah. And people just say to me, even on a radio station, we're going to check out my man. He marvelous. See what he's saying today.

[00:24:53] You know what I mean? It's like, um, few interviews I've been through. See, 

[00:24:57] Savia Rocks: this is why, this is why I like it. So let's talk about [00:25:00] your music. You know, we've talked about how you get creative, why you get creative, but let's talk about, you know, your songs, why you make them, where you've been featured. Um, because I want people to understand more about.

[00:25:14] the brilliance of the music that you make in your own way, but also how you feel that you've been able to contribute in films or, or in any project that you've done. So please talk to me about some more of the songs that you've written that you've made and how they've impacted people within the movies or features that you've been in.

[00:25:37] Emarvellous: Right. Um, We Don't Talk About Swim's a good one. I was a feature on that by Ed Cura because then, um, and if, and if basically because of what he does, so he gave us the opportunity to come up, come up with our lyrics for it to feature on the track. Um, we don't, um, don't, we don't talk about swim and obviously [00:26:00] he's done, he's done, um, tracks before, I mean, regarding the, the topic.

[00:26:08] And what's happened is, um, it's, it's all I gave me a chance to come away with a different topic. Because like I said, I talk about mental health and various other things that go on and stuff like that. But I would say that was like really good because I never thought of doing a swimming track before.

[00:26:27] And it brought that to my attention. And, um, say it's all done. He's been done. And I thought, yeah, happy days. And a lot of people reacted to that tune. The mental health one was going through certain situations. And you know what I mean? So I thought to myself, pen to paper is the weapon, man. Perfect key.

[00:26:53] That really helped me out a lot. And wellbeing. There was a situation when I [00:27:00] ended, I nearly ended up homeless. So what happened is if you listen to it, it says, I lost my home elements of a big shock determination. I won't. So that's how it starts off. In other words, there's people that go for a situation like that.

[00:27:16] I won't say they take the easy way out, but, um, what happened was they, they get highly depressed and they start doing things that they shouldn't be doing. 

[00:27:26] Savia Rocks: Yeah. I see. 

[00:27:29] Emarvellous: So that track actually helped me. Um, I wouldn't say I was going in that direction, but I thought to myself, you know what, just, just, just, just find your corner and try and find somewhere to live.

[00:27:40] There's always a door open for you, no matter what. 

[00:27:44] Savia Rocks: See, that's, that's the thing. So one, one of the questions that I do want to answer, which kinds of adapts to the answer that you've just given me is, If there, people like to judge people all the time based upon how you look, um, basically a lot of the [00:28:00] time on how you look before you've even opened your mouth to say anything at all.

[00:28:05] If there was no judgment in the world, what would you do differently?

[00:28:14] Emarvellous: If there was no judgment in the world, um, do you know what, that is a bit of a tricky question because you have to have the yin and the yang, don't you? 

[00:28:25] Savia Rocks: It depends on the aspects of how you see it. That's why I like asking it because I, I find that just from my perspective that a lot of people like to judge you based upon your presentation of how you look rather than allowing you to physically articulate yourself in the way that you feel fit for you and give you an opinion.

[00:28:48] Emarvellous: I reckon if some people didn't judge each other, this world would be much more positive. 

[00:28:52] Savia Rocks: It would 

[00:28:52] Emarvellous: be. and it'll be more loving, I 

[00:28:55] Savia Rocks: think. And have more compassion. 

[00:28:57] Emarvellous: Yes, exactly. But some people judge [00:29:00] other people to make themselves feel better, but in the end they still feel worse about themselves because they haven't tackled the problem, have they?

[00:29:08] Savia Rocks: That's the thing. 

[00:29:09] Emarvellous: So they're digging themselves deeper, deeper. It's just like some people, where I used to work before, like people that drank a lot. They all like self medicate themselves to a certain point because they're all things are kicking in, they're drinking and they're feeling happy and stuff like that.

[00:29:26] But not realizing in the long run, you're destroying yourself because it makes matters worse. 

[00:29:30] Savia Rocks: That's true. 

[00:29:31] Emarvellous: You're alright for that moment when you self medicate, but you're not tackling the problem. And there are some people that just don't want to listen to you when you try to help them. Like you were saying earlier on, they have to try, they have to want it.

[00:29:45] You know what I mean? But then sometimes they're not strong enough to want it. Because they're so far gone. 

[00:29:50] Savia Rocks: And that's actually a good question to ask you. Would you call it a weakness? Or would you call it a strength? Would you call it Um, just a not [00:30:00] the willingness to want to change. Would you call it ignorance?

[00:30:03] What would you call it? 

[00:30:06] Emarvellous: To be honest, the answer I'm going to come with is, I say a lot of things is based on a spiritual dilemma. 

[00:30:13] Savia Rocks: I like that. 

[00:30:14] Emarvellous: Spiritual blockage. And then to the normal person, they wouldn't understand it because they don't know. But you know, like you do Buddhism, you would catch on exactly what I'm saying.

[00:30:27] Savia Rocks: As soon as you said it, I knew exactly what you 

[00:30:29] Emarvellous: meant. Yeah, exactly. I knew that you were the caught on. And it's like, you know what it is as well? Because you know, if people were to read more, obviously positive education, right? Then, um, they would be, they'll be so surprised and they might turn things around differently for them because they've got the knowledge and they, and there's a reason.

[00:30:51] why they're doing what they're doing. 

[00:30:54] Savia Rocks: Sometimes I think it's just a transition in their life that they must go through. Sometimes, [00:31:00] sometimes most of the time that we don't know people's circumstances of why they drink or take certain substances. And I'm not here to judge that that's not what my life is about, but I think 

[00:31:12] Emarvellous: another thing is it's like the, the, it does make sense You heard that saying about the company you keep.

[00:31:19] Because you can get people that, like, really can suck your essence. You can be bright. 

[00:31:26] Savia Rocks: They call them vampires. But energy 

[00:31:27] Emarvellous: and positivity. And in Iran, I don't know if it's such a right thing to say, but vampires. 

[00:31:32] Savia Rocks: Yeah, that's exactly, yeah. They call them, they call them energy suckers, which are, yeah, which are vampires.

[00:31:39] They, they come, they take your energy and then they, they flee. Um, back to where they come from and then when they feel down or depressed again, or they feel like I need to use someone's energy, they come back and absorb yours. Now this is where I say to people, um, the energy you keep, it's like I wrote something [00:32:00] very, um, not recently actually, that when people, when I say to people, your network is your net worth, it's very true.

[00:32:09] Um, so to people that you keep with you, it doesn't. tell people who you are as a person, not all the time. That's not true, but sometimes a high majority of the people that you keep around you will have a detrimental impact on who you are as a person. So those people who are having some drinking substances and going through what they're going through, like you say, is a way for them to forget what's around the world.

[00:32:36] Basically it's a blocker. Yeah, literally it's a blocker. But when that substance releases from their spiritual bodies, their vessel that they're in. Yeah. It, it makes, it makes the situation most probably three or four times worse for them. Exactly. Because now they've got to recover. from the drink or the substance, then they're [00:33:00] recovering from the thoughts of what happened while they were having the substance, then they've got to recover from the blockage.

[00:33:07] And as they say, I always say this to people, we're born with about seven generations of trauma within us. 

[00:33:15] Emarvellous: Definitely. I agree with that. 

[00:33:17] Savia Rocks: And 

[00:33:18] Emarvellous: we were talking about that the other day, wasn't we? Mm 

[00:33:20] Savia Rocks: hmm. Yeah. We're all with seven different generations of trauma within us. And the only way to get it out is to have a spiritual cleanse.

[00:33:28] And some people might not always understand what that is or how it is. I can get, I can go deeper into it, but for me, it's just about understanding. Exactly. 

[00:33:41] Emarvellous: And that is the key. 

[00:33:42] Savia Rocks: Your generations of who you 

[00:33:45] Emarvellous: Exactly. You see that one of the thing is that one of the blockers as well, it's like the love of money.

[00:33:51] Savia Rocks: Oh, that's the greed. 

[00:33:53] Emarvellous: Yeah. Greed. Yeah. And so they're not really thinking about trying to educate themselves or trying to educate [00:34:00] someone else or whatever. It's just that I've got this goal. You got to be a goal getter, but do you know, it's when you're, when you're so hungry for something and you're trying to rush it, it's not coming to you.

[00:34:10] Savia Rocks: Nope. 

[00:34:12] Emarvellous: when you just relax to a certain point, obviously you've got to work towards what you want, that it will, it will come. There's always, everything's based on timing. 

[00:34:23] Savia Rocks: Yeah. It's at the right time. It's when you don't care. I always find when I don't care, I taught myself when I don't care about anything, it comes so quickly and so easily.

[00:34:34] Emarvellous: It's strange how that works, isn't it? 

[00:34:36] Savia Rocks: Mm hmm. And it's, it's actually a magnificent thing to see. It's one minute you care and you're trying, you're going fast, you're at a fast pace. You're saying, I need to do this. I need to do that. And then you decide, I don't care no more. I don't want to do it. I'm not doing it anymore.

[00:34:54] And boom. So many doors open and opportunities come and you're like, but I don't care anymore. [00:35:00] Why is it coming? 

[00:35:01] Emarvellous: It's all about giving thanks to the universe. 

[00:35:03] Savia Rocks: You know what I mean? 

[00:35:08] Emarvellous: Yeah. It's fine. And it's just like a lot, a lot of things that elements respect to see. You know what I mean, things around you, you know what I mean, don't take nothing for granted.

[00:35:17] Savia Rocks: See, this is, this is why I like having these conversations because it, it helps people to understand that don't look at what somebody else has. You don't know how they received it. You don't know how quick they got it. When someone did get something quick, it doesn't last. Believe me. 

[00:35:34] Emarvellous: If 

[00:35:37] Savia Rocks: you are patient and yes, you're going to struggle for what you get, you, you will keep it.

[00:35:42] But remember. inch wanting to keep it and needing to keep it are two completely different things, but also having gratitude for when you receive it enables you to keep. 

[00:35:54] Emarvellous: Yes. You're going to appreciate it more because you had to work for it and you could see what a hard [00:36:00] earned work and you achieve it makes you feel good.

[00:36:02] Savia Rocks: Another thing I always say to people is don't tell people your business. 

[00:36:06] Emarvellous: Yeah, exactly. 

[00:36:08] Savia Rocks: I say that because. A lot of people will try to put unnecessary energy into your life. Yeah, very much so. I always, I do this thing that I shield myself from unnecessary people. But again, that's only if you will understand as a person.

[00:36:30] how to shoot yourself and block yourself from things that you don't need and people that you don't want in your life. And don't be afraid to turn around and say, I don't want or need this person in my life anymore because they're not fulfilling the substance of who I am. And I don't think I'm fulfilling the substance of who they are.

[00:36:50] There's nothing wrong. There are millions of people in this world, billions in fact. And the whole point I feel of existence is to meet new people. [00:37:00] But to treat them with respect, kindness, and compassion. If you're doing that, you don't need to get rid of anyone as long as they're treating you the same.

[00:37:07] Emarvellous: Exactly. And if they're not treating you like that, you don't need to walk away because they're breaking your spirit at the end of the day. 

[00:37:14] Savia Rocks: That's exactly what it is. So if I was to turn around and ask you, actually, this is really, this is really cool. So if there was one song that was the soundtrack of your life, Ian, what song would you choose and why would you choose that particular song?

[00:37:31] Emarvellous: It'll be a hot summer breeze. And it's like a summer track. I talk about the elements. I talk about meditation and stuff like that. When you do meditate with a clear thinking mind and stuff like that, it really, it does a lot for you, basically. In other words, energy, more positive. Um, yeah, it just, [00:38:00] your different outlook on life would be, it's obviously going to be different.

[00:38:03] It's going to have a good, um, not what I was trying to say didn't actually come out. Um, it's going to inspire you anyway, 

[00:38:12] Savia Rocks: when 

[00:38:14] Emarvellous: someone sees you that, that you want to hopefully do things or they say, Oh, how does he do this? Why is he always happy and all that? And then you, you sort of like, um, it can educate them just pass on the knowledge of positivity.

[00:38:28] I mean, good energy. 

[00:38:31] Savia Rocks: I like that. If, if there was one quote that represented you as a person, what quote would you choose and why would you choose that particular quote? 

[00:38:42] Emarvellous: I'll say love, peace and love. Love overalls takes over everything. 

[00:38:49] Savia Rocks: That's actually quite true. Yeah, I agree with that. That's something I always say to 

[00:38:53] Emarvellous: people.

[00:38:53] No longer positive, can it? 

[00:38:56] Savia Rocks: That is true. That is true. 

[00:38:59] Emarvellous: Love, love is the [00:39:00] key. 

[00:39:02] Savia Rocks: I like that. I like that a lot. What is the best advice you have ever received from someone? Because I know in life sometimes that we go through different transitions in our life. They say that we change every seven years and from the first seven years we evolve and whatever happens in those seven years, um, kind of works you up to your next seven and the next seven and the next seven.

[00:39:28] So that's how it works to make you the person you are today. But 

[00:39:33] Emarvellous: my answer to that is self belief. Self belief is always, it's always a winner. Because if you, you go into somewhere and you're not confident, then it's going to show. And then you believe in yourself that, that, you know, that really uplifts you.

[00:39:52] You know what I mean? And yeah, self, that's, that's always worked for me. Self belief. I remember there was times like when I, [00:40:00] um, wasn't feeling like wanting to do certain things and not believing in myself, then things won't work. The minute you believe in yourself, doors really do open. They really do. 

[00:40:13] Savia Rocks: That is actually, that is actually really, really true.

[00:40:15] Because you're helping yourself, the universe will help you. 

[00:40:18] Emarvellous: Yeah, exactly. That's it. Very true. 

[00:40:21] Savia Rocks: That's true. When did you learn? What was your earliest experience where you learned that language had power? 

[00:40:33] Emarvellous: I'd say my teens. Oh. 

[00:40:35] Savia Rocks: Okay. 

[00:40:36] Emarvellous: Yeah. That language just has to be, yeah, I'll say more or less in my teens growing up, my mum telling me certain things, educating me, and like, um, listening to the older, older generation because they know what they're talking about.

[00:40:53] Things that they say, then it comes into, it comes into your daily living now. 

[00:40:59] Savia Rocks: That's true. [00:41:00] 

[00:41:01] Emarvellous: I was thinking, Oh, okay. You do know what you're talking about. It's not like I'll say I thought, what do they know? Why should I listen to them? But I just thought when I did listen to them, it's, it's all like, help me.

[00:41:16] Savia Rocks: See, I like that. When was the last time you remember feeling totally at peace with yourself?

[00:41:28] Emarvellous: Um, when my daughter was born.

[00:41:34] Yeah, that's when I felt totally peace. Alright. Because I myself. Um, what I, okay, she's born and now, okay, there's a life. Mm-Hmm. . And this is when responsibility kicks in. 

[00:41:49] Savia Rocks: Yes. 

[00:41:50] Emarvellous: And that made me feel good. 

[00:41:52] Savia Rocks: Yes. See, I like, 

[00:41:56] Emarvellous: yeah. 

[00:41:58] Savia Rocks: If I was to say to you, [00:42:00] Ian, I'm gonna take you and put you on a desert island for 24 hours.

[00:42:05] On that desert island, you are allowed to bring one musician, one activist, and one president. Who would you bring and why?

[00:42:18] Emarvellous: On a desert island, well, um, I think

[00:42:24] you may know better, know, um, what I'm about to say regarding the president. 

[00:42:28] Savia Rocks: Go on. 

[00:42:31] Emarvellous: I'll say Obama. 

[00:42:32] Savia Rocks: Yep, I thought so. 

[00:42:33] Emarvellous: Yeah, yeah. Do you know what, because, um, you know, it just, things change. It was a game changer. The minute, um, a black president came on the scene. You know, I'm not saying the other presidents were no good or whatever.

[00:42:50] I've got nothing negative to say. Right. Um, but there were certain things, the way he spoke, not many presidents spoken [00:43:00] the way he spoke, the way his vision was, the presidents, other presidents didn't see them. He didn't visualize things through the way he visualized things. You know what I mean? And what was the other question?

[00:43:12] An activist. 

[00:43:13] Savia Rocks: So you allowed one president, which you said Obama, one activist and one musician. 

[00:43:22] Emarvellous: I'll say musician will be Niles Rodgers. 

[00:43:25] Savia Rocks: Okay. That'd be interesting. 

[00:43:28] Emarvellous: Yeah. Because he go, it's his production, man. It's, it's unbelievable. And you know, he does stuff from the soul. He done things, he done things from, yesterday that has an impact today.

[00:43:43] Savia Rocks: So he could see the future in a way. 

[00:43:46] Emarvellous: Yes, exactly. He was ahead of his time. 

[00:43:48] Savia Rocks: Yeah. 

[00:43:49] Emarvellous: As much as. Yeah. 

[00:43:51] Savia Rocks: So we got musician. We just need an activist 

[00:43:57] Emarvellous: now. Right. [00:44:00] Um,

[00:44:10] Nelson Mandela. 

[00:44:11] Savia Rocks: Okay. He used 

[00:44:14] Emarvellous: to go through hell just to get where he needed to get to. 

[00:44:19] Savia Rocks: Just tell me about it. 

[00:44:21] Emarvellous: Yeah. And I would say he was a real civil rights activist. Can I mention one more? Marcus Garvey was another one. 

[00:44:30] Savia Rocks: Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Okay. I like writing these down because it's interesting to see what people say.

[00:44:38] Emarvellous: Do you know, I can just go on and on about activists, but I'll say yeah, those particular two stand out, really stand out for me. 

[00:44:46] Savia Rocks: A 

[00:44:47] Emarvellous: lot of people wanted to do the civil rights movement, so you've got Malcolm X, you've got Martin Luther King, but I picked those specific ones because to me they stood out for me.

[00:44:58] Everyone else's opinion is [00:45:00] different. 

[00:45:00] Savia Rocks: Yeah. 

[00:45:00] Emarvellous: And it's different opinions. 

[00:45:03] Savia Rocks: Totally. 

[00:45:04] Emarvellous: That's why everyone is different in general. 

[00:45:06] Savia Rocks: I like that. What do you believe stands between you and complete happiness? 

[00:45:12] Emarvellous: Negativity.

[00:45:17] Negativity, always. Because that divide, that's a divider, isn't it? If you've got happiness, then I reckon we can grow. 

[00:45:27] Savia Rocks: That's true. So I only have two more for you. So, My last, my second to last question for you is what would you like your legacy to be only and only when you believe that you would like to stop in your life and just live out your days peacefully or when you feel like your soul has passed on, what would you feel your legacy would be and what would you like it to be?[00:46:00] 

[00:46:02] Emarvellous: Legacy, a person of love and compassion that thought about everyone else and put everyone else before himself.

[00:46:10] What was the other one you asked me? 

[00:46:13] Savia Rocks: The first one was, what would you like your legacy to be? 

[00:46:18] Emarvellous: Right. All right. Did I not answer that question just now? 

[00:46:22] Savia Rocks: Yeah, you did. Yeah, definitely. You definitely did. Yeah. 

[00:46:25] Emarvellous: And what was the one afterwards? 

[00:46:26] Savia Rocks: What would you like your legacy to be? And what do you believe when you're not here anymore?

[00:46:32] you would like people to think of you in your legacy? 

[00:46:37] Emarvellous: You know, like, um, like positive words, you know, like, as in, you know, like when you help other people and stuff, it still answers the question. It's all that goes into that question. 

[00:46:51] Savia Rocks: Exactly. 

[00:46:52] Emarvellous: Yeah. So, um, I would still say it would be, um, love, compassion. 

[00:46:59] Savia Rocks: [00:47:00] I like that.

[00:47:00] Um, Well, that definitely makes sense to me. So my final question is, I would love people to be able to find your music, find out who you are, be able to contact you. Where can they find you, Marvelous? You can find my 

[00:47:16] Emarvellous: music on all platforms, Spotify, all of them, basically all the music platforms. And you can, plus YouTube, Um, Facebook, cause on Facebook, I'm e marvelous anyway.

[00:47:34] But yeah, um, yeah, all the general platforms that people know about, you'll find me on there. 

[00:47:42] Savia Rocks: Guys, go and check out E Marvelous. He's around. I've listened to his music. I've seen what he does. You know, I've seen the impact that he has on and in what he does. So guys, this is where I say to you, E Marvelous, I want to thank you so much for coming on the Ask People [00:48:00] podcast, for embracing us with who you are as a person.

[00:48:03] Sure. 

[00:48:05] Emarvellous: I enjoyed every bit of the conversation we had. And thank you again. 

[00:48:10] Savia Rocks: You're more than welcome. 

[00:48:11] Emarvellous: One day we'll be able to have another, um, podcast show. When the time is right. 

[00:48:18] Savia Rocks: When the time is right, it will always happen. Most definitely. And 

[00:48:21] Emarvellous: honestly, you are good at what you're doing. 

[00:48:23] Savia Rocks: Thank you. 

[00:48:25] Emarvellous: Amazing, because I've heard, um, I heard Boy Say So's one, and I heard another one, I can't remember who it was, but I mean, yeah.

[00:48:31] Yeah, you really, you shine. 

[00:48:34] Savia Rocks: Thank you so much. I'm really humbled. Thank you so much. Thank you for coming on again. And I want to say guys, thank you so much for listening to the Ask People podcast. And please remember, you can subscribe and leave us a review on Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, LinkedIn, and any other platform.

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